Heavenly saints in the Bible

Hebrews 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

REFUTATIONS:

Catholic Apologetics use this verses to prove that saints are now in heaven with God.
 
If the interpretation is true, It will contradict the following verses:

A) You need to be resurrected like what happened to Christ in order to be with Him.

1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

B)  St. John said that even today no one hath seen God. tantamount to saying that there is no man with God in heaven today

1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time.

C) If a man dies, he will go to heaven by means of resurrection by Christ IN THE LAST DAY. he will not immediately go to heaven if he is a righteous man.

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Now what is the right explanation of Hebrews 12:22-23?

We must notice that It was the spirits and not men written on the verses.The spirit of righteous men are really in the hands of God.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

On the resurrection, this spirit will join with the body.

Ezekiel 37:4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.  

Ezekiel 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:  

Ezekiel 37:6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Ezekiel 37:13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

Ezekiel 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

 If the dead saints are now in heaven, who the people will Christ come again for?

Christ will come again to resurrect the dead Christians and be with Him forever in paradise.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 
 
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.  

Refuting Moses will accuse the Jews as claimed proof that saints are in heaven

ALIBI VERSE: John 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

RIGHT ANSWER: Another private interpretation. how can Moses accuse them while he is dead?

Proof that he is dead read below:

Hebrews 11:23 By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment.

Hebrews 11:32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:

Moses is one of the prophets of God right?

What did Paul say? are the prophets which are also saints too already now in heaven?

Hebrews 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

They did not receive the promise. WHAT IS THAT PROMISE according in the Bible?

1 John 2:25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

Now we already refuted that there private interpretation is really wrong.

The question now is How can Moses accuse the Jews as Jesus said?

Let's continue reading in the next verse.

John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

Moses will accuse the Jews because he wrote about Christ.

It means that the way the Jews will accuse by Moses IS BY MEANS OF HIS WRITINGS.

The Jews believe in Moses by reading and believing in the Torah which he wrote as God instructed to him.

WE MUST REMEMBER THAT EVEN IS NOT PHYSICALLY PRESENT, HE CAN BE SPIRITUALLY PRESENT IN HIS LETTER. (read below)

1 Corinthians 5:3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,

So Paul is present with us even today in spirit by means of his letter.

the same way Moses is present with the Jews by means of his writings EVEN HE IS PHYSICALLY DEAD and PHYSICALLY NOT PRESENT.

This is how Moses will accuse the Jews by means of his writings because he had wrote about Christ.

We must remember that the commandment of God will be use to judge the people.

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

So if the Jews rejected Christ, Moses spiritually by means of his writings will accuse them because he wrote about Christ.

Because It was the Spirit of Christ who taught the prophets.

"Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:


Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.  " (1 Peter 1:10-11)

And It was Christ who sent the prophets.

Luke 11:49 Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:

Jesus Christ is the power and WISDOM of God in 1 Corinthians 1:24.

The reason why our Lord Jesus is the God of the holy prophets.

Revelation 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.